time. but with regard to the bowel disease, there are also tests done of these children's bowels. in certain cases, you said they had obvious evidence of inflammatory bowel disease but none of the hospital records on several of those patients, those 12 patients, actually confirmed that. how does that work for you? >> you will understand this, so let me make it absolutely clear. what we did was to re-evaluate the biopsies because there was disagreement between various people. so an expert pathologist was brought in to review the biopsies blindly. this is in his statement to the gmc. he made the diagnosis, not me. and he, the professor of pathologist who reviewed the biopsies without knowing who they came from, and he was the one who made the final diagnosis described in the paper and that is the final analysis put in the paper about the children's bowel disease. it was not made by me and not made on routine reporting because of disagreements between those making the reports.