was obsessed -- >> steve, let her finish. >> we've got to at least deal on the same like field of informational -- >> rachel, there is a history here. after the oklahoma city bombing that killed 168 people. and clinton talked about voices of hatred. you know, you seem to feel like you'll bring it up to a point, but then you'll certainly jump in and say that we shouldn't make a direct link here. >> i think there is a difference between holding someone like sarah palin responsible and wanting her to behave responsibly. i just think that those are two very distinct but related things. >> let me -- >> if we're talking about oklahoma city, you know, then there's that -- the watering the tree of liberty with the blood of tyrants imagery you see pop up again and again. timothy mcveigh, to refer to that tree at a health care rally