stoddard. pastor mike nowak joins us. was a pastor for both dory and mave stoddard. tell us what happened. >> they were in line to see gabrielle giffords and they heard shots. they haven't sure where they were coming from. so dory pulled her down, fell on top of her. she was shot in the leg and he was shot in the leg. >> he died defending his wife. >> that's correct. >> obviously heroic. instinctive. what was he like as a man? >> he was a big teddy bear, the kind of guy that would help everybody out, open his wallet and give whatever he had to anybody. it wasn't unusual for him to do something like he did yesterday. he loved a lot of people. he was a benevolent man and cared for a lot of people. he thought of others before himself. >> have you been able to speak