12 million iphones by verizon. at&t sold more than 11 empty first 9 months of this year and as you know, many of the people with the iphone all they can have is at&t service and complaints gnat iphone has been hard to -- been hard to use. it gets very poor ratings from some of the consumer agencies, consumer reports most recently with a poor rating to at&t with call dropping and the like. big questions of verizon can do better. they say they've spent billions of dollars upgrading to handle it. unclear whether you can chat and surf at the is an imtime using the old technology. you might not be able to chat and surf with the iphone. but the officials of this company say absolutely, we can handle this traffic. another thing here, at&t coming out of the gate battling back saying, look, we're battle tested at at&t.