number, that's a problem. but i think probably the number one red flag, at least for me as a parent, is that 30-hour thing. you know, you know right there something's going on. >> so what do you do if you're a parent and your kid is constantly playing video games and he or she just don't listen to you? >> there are actually counselors who specialize in dealing with kids who seem to be addicted to video games. i think it's important to reach out and get help because sometimes it really can be beyond the parent. i mean, that's -- you know, that's something that sometimes a parent can't deal with on their own. i want to get in here what the gaming industry says. they say the addiction thing doesn't exist. they say this is -- >> can't you see it being brought up in jared loughner court case? can't you see it being brought up in court and the gaming industry probably wouldn't be so happy about that. >> they wouldn't. they would probably say what they told us about this study. they say there's no concrete evidence that links games to any harm. there is simply no evidence that computer and video games cause