them, quote, what we have begun cannot go back. he joined me earlier from his home in cairo. thank you for joining us. >> it's always a pleasure to be with you, fareed. >> what do you make of the most recent moves of mubarak? appointing his vice president, another army officer as the prime minister, the former aviation minister. what is your reaction? >> well, fareed, i think this is hopeless, desperate attempt by mubarak to stay in power. i think it is loud and clear from everybody in egypt that mubarak has to leave today and it is not for every egyptian. people have been demonstrating for him to leave.