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qaeda or something. >> well -- >> when i hear you say -- >> it's very bad. >> when i hear you say enemy, i think it's too strong a word. they are a business competitor who at the moment is outcompeting america. >> they are not really outcompeting. they're cheating. when you cheat, and we have people that don't know what to do because we have the wrong people in office, that's not outcompeting. >> do you think we have smart enough people to deal with the chinese and the indians and these new competitors out there in business? >> i think they're smart, but i don't think they have any savvy. they don't have the savvy. they don't have what it takes. we should put our best -- you know who we have negotiating with the chinese? diplomats. you know what a diplomat is? a person that from a young age is trained how to be nice. in other words, you could never be a diplomat. but a person -- everybody said he should be fired. every week they wanted me to fire this guy. i couldn't fire him because he was so smart. >> i wouldn't be here without you. >> that's right. [ applause ] >> now, you're terrific. frankly, you'd be a very good negotiator. >> so would you.

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