and as a general rule, and most people know this, that hearsay is generally not admissible. however, the rules of evidence provide for exceptions. and what was argue you'ved this week before a three-judge panel was whether or not third persons can testify in the murder trial involving drew peterson, and that is specifically evidence from the dead third wife, who told her sister something about drew, and the missing fourth wife, that's stacy, who told her minister about something. bottom line, the court has to resolve the question of probative value that is, will it help, getting to the truth against the prejudice, and that is will the prejudice outweigh the probative value? the trial court said no. that's what the three-judge panel has to resolve and the arguments -- >> i can see you shaking your head, richard. go ahead. >> basically it's a statement made by someone other than the