>> i think he probably can. it's a pretty brutal regime. we tend to think of gadhafi as this comical mad cap, but he's run one of the most repressive countries in the world. libya was tied with north korea for the most closed repressive society in the world. he has the guns and this is the big difference here. this is an oil country, where tunisia was not, egypt was not. he doesn't need europe. tunisia needed europe. egypt needed the united states for aid, needed the tourist. huge amount of money that comes into egypt comes in through tourists. libya doesn't need any of this. it just sells its oil to the world. >> yet he hasn't taken that money and invested it in the country in terms of education or anything. the standard of living is pathetic. >> absolutely. there's been no development. it's particularly pathetic because he could have done it with the crumbs. it's only 5 or 6 million people in libya. >> there's a tiny amount of