turn around to cops and teachers. >> because clearly -- >> teachers, health care, and law enforcement. we realize that, right? >> clearly, politicians -- the public out there decided that politicians who wanted to do that had the right idea going. because they turned around state houses in 14 more -- at least 14 more states in this past midterm election. why? because they like those ideas. now the state lawmakers can run out of their state. but the people spoke. and they don't like what they heard. >> let me correct a few facts. >> this show's over. >> private union employees and public sector union employees do not make the same. if you want to play wages. >> i said individuals of equal educational stature in the public sector and the private sector have almost identical salaries. >> that doesn't factor in benefits, vacation time, job security. you don't have intangibles like