that they believe, yes, they are muslims second, americans first and foremost? >> absolutely. and that's the issue is so far, t.j., most of the alphabet soup of muslims in washington that represent us i don't think represent most muslim-americans. what i'm going to be testifying about is many of the leadership of the muslim-american communities have failed. the vast majority of muslims have not failed. they've been the heroes, the ones turning people in. but at the end o of of the day, it was a process, a culture, a culture of lack of cooperation that led to him not being found years before he actually ended up wanting to do the violent acts he did. and that's where we have to treat the problem, not at the final step, but long before. >> i've got to let you have the last word if you can do this quickly for me. representative king, do you think this is an effort by a man who is misguided in his efforts but with good intentions? or do you believe this is a man