that clear, publicly i suspect gadhafi would be in a different position, maybe even left the country by now. in techls of military action, so far it's an authority, a legal action. we'll see by president obama's statement in the next 20 minutes, half an hour, and statements of other countries of who is going to participate, how it's going to be coordinated. a no-fly zone is only one thing. the part you read, ali, it shows that you can use air power against gadhafi's ground forces. >> right. >> that is air strikes against those who might be moving forward. >> let me ask you, the defense secretary had said when the no-fly zone was first discussed, he said you can't just impose a no-fly zone, you actually have to do other things. does it require air strikes? >> well, according to defense secretary gates, a no-fly zone would require initially air strikes against air defense systems throughout libya. those air defense that is might