critical the need was for appropriate funding and resources to address this critical aids crisis and this was in 1985 when she and dr. krim founded amfar and it wasn't until '87 to put just a -- to paint the times until ronald reagan who is president then mentioned aids publicly and to 40,000 people had already died and did it ironically at an amfar event but she was steadfast devoted to this message and she was an extraordinary messenger of it. >> mathilde, although you say she didn't see it as a risk, everybody else did. it was a huge deal for a hollywood star like her to be going after this kind of cause. what effect do you think that liz taylor had on -- must call her elizabeth taylor, she hated being called liz even though everybody else did, that elizabeth taylor had on aids, on people, you know, wanting the