that was what we met with initially. >> when you are captive in this situation, it's extraordinary how you resist change. to you, you are bound, your feet are bound, you're in a car, but i'm not dead. please just don't change that. i don't want to be moved to another car. i don't want to meet another group. i don't want to go anywhere. i'm not dead here and now and i don't know what will happen. >> what the next group will be like. >> exactly. >> and lindsey, you weren't spared any different treatment because you were a woman? >> i think i was spared. i was punched in the face twice. >> while you were bound? >> yeah, while i was bound. the first time was right at the beginning when they took us, they put steve and i in one car, and they lifted me up first, two men picked me up and put me in the car. this was before steve got in, and i remember i was sitting in the car, and i'm bound and they had bound my hands so tight they were starting to go numb. and i'm sitting there, and my