it. i have actually told people to take a nail and put it through the hard drive and they can do that. with the cell phone, you can reset the device to the factory settings, and you won't get juice, but you can do that. and take out the external storage like a sim card or memory card and take them out, too, and do whatever you can to overwrite the hard drive if you don't want to run a nail through it, that is what you can do. >> lance, a perfect conversation on earth day. good luck on getting rid of the gadgets. appreciate your time. >> i will try. bye-bye. >> see you. pcmag has a great list of the recycling sites on their site, and go to cnn.com/ali for a link. i'm good about washing my face.