and war of choice." richard, thanks for being here. you created this analytical frame of choice, war of necessity and said libya was a war of choice, but now that we're in, now that it's approaching a stalemate, should we listen to what senator mccain has been telling us today, get in there to win this war? >> i would respectfully disagree with the senator. i don't think our interests warrant it. i think there are still other things we can do. for example, push for a cease-fire. it's a strategic distraction given all of the other things going in the region and also we still don't know the people we are suppose lead helping. the senator talks about recognizing the rebels and the opposition. none of us can be confident of who they are, who who would emerge if they were to win. >> let me take a kichlt points sequentially. first a cease-fire in place that left gadhafi. would that not, in fact, constitute a defeat if he were there two years from now? >> the principal purpose the