rebellion. and i think pity the syrian people. they rose in rebellion, in nobility, but they face this heartless regime completely. >> the syrian regime has a close relationship with iran. >> yes. >> what is the iranian role if any in syria right now? >> i don't think the syrians need much help in terms of a crackdown. they've got those kinds of skills. president obama said they're receiving help from iran. they may be receiving help from iran economically, they've slipped into a relationship of tutelage with iran over the years. they began it in 1980, but they drifted into it deeper and deeper with bashar. but as far as terror, as far as the brigade commanders, as far as the art of killing, as far as firing on you mourners, wolf, they're firing on mourners when mourners come out, i think this regime knows the art of brutality. >> should the obama administration recall its ambassador from damascus? >> we have no business sending an ambassador to damascus.