the vatican who head up one of the more important congregations in the vatican. so the fact is that the two of them worked together quite closely. and maybe if john could comment on this a little more, but there were many things that john paul ii did in the time years of his papers to establish sort of a smooth transition to a cardinal. he made his the spokesman during the funeral and that did held cardinal ratinger achieve what he achieved. >> sure. cardinal ratzinger was -- which meant that when the cardinals gathered for those meetings in rome leading up to the conclave, he was the one providing. it also meant when john paul's funeral mass was celebrated,