you do is build enemies so today there was retaliation and a lot of people were killed. hatred is being built up. i think we're working toward a stage that the resentment will be so strong that we'll be invading and occupying pakistan. last thing in the world we need. it isn't like pakistan has refused to help us. they have cooperated with us before. we've captured quite a few who have been brought here. the people involved in the first bombing of the towers. they were brought to trial. some were executed. i don't know what's so wrong with that. what would be so terribly wrong with saying that maybe we ought to interrogate bin laden. is that such a horrible suggestion? >> congressman, i want to make it clear. if you had been sitting there in the oval office with the situation room with the same evidence that was presented to osama bin laden, would you not have ordered the raid that he ordered? >> i would have said what i got