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baby-sit my child and been at my house i was there the day camden was born at the hospital. yes very close friend. you know, i -- julie was leak family to, you know, to me. >> sir, what do you think it means? does it mean anything to you when you hear that her mother's quoted as saying she led a troubled life? do you agree with that? what does that mean? >> no, i don't. i don't agree with that. julie had her ups and downs, but she always kept going. she didn't try to blame her problems on anybody else. she always worked. you know, she -- she had a few different jobs but she tried and, you know, she did what, you know, she had to do to survive. i mean, like i said, everybody has their ups and downs but i -- she didn't have a troubled life, not to me. not to me. >> last thing here, quickly, sir, is there any -- i think i heard you actually say you think this might have been an

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