front lines each and every day of his life. this is a guy with tremendous value. >> you don't think it's a career-ender for him? >> and it's someone who really believes in equality and justice for all. he is a fair man. it was a bad choice of words. it was wrong, and he was right to apologize. >> i don't like to see anybody have their career ended because they say something damn foolish. but the sincerity or the fineness of our apology doesn't excuse our conduct. so he is sort of in that zone. and i've gone without a job, and i don't want to see anybody go without a job. >> same here. but he is not alone. trust me. >> let's talk some other political stuff that is out there, including all of this talk now, sarah palin, you're a republican, tony. what do you think? is she going to run for the republican presidential nomination? >> i don't know. and she has run a very individual career. i mean nothing in her career could have been predicted. when she quit the governorship, i was one of the few people out there saying i didn't think she was hurting herself.