votes? >> one precinct, that's all that stands -- >> do we have a sense, john, of how many votes? is it still up for grabs? >> no. we don't know what the precinct is, we don't note size of the precinct tp on one hand it is important we get them so someone will win and claim the moral victory. on the other hand, let's be honest, rick santorum, whether romney passes him o and beats him with two or 12 votes or santorum beats him by a few votes, it is a draw. >> you keep saying a drawing, psychologically. if it is romney, so what. if it is rick santorum that wins and beats mitt romney, that's a big story. >> much more dramatic story for rick santorum to say. i'm paraphrasing here, i spent $1, you spent $10 million. >> if it is four votes, we can