the table was cap and trade, global warming, and i wanted to stay involved in the fray. so i contacted a local coal company from my area who -- and i asked. i said, look, i want to join you in the fight. i want to work together with you. i want to help you in any way to make sure we defeat cap and trade. and i'm proud to have engaged in that. >> congressman paul? >> it is true. i believe congress should designate how the money should be spent. but the big difference between the way i voted and the senator voted is i always voted against the spending. i always voted against the spending. there's only been a couple of appropriations bills i've voted for in the past 24, 26 years i've been in washington. so you are a big spender. that's all there is to it. you are a big government conservative. and you don't vote for right to work and these very important things, and that's what weakens the economy. so to say you are a conservative, i think is a stretch but you've convinced a lot of people of it.