down ballot the whole time even for folks who have already disendorsed donald trump. they are saying this is someone who stood with him, this is someone who agrees with him on x, y, z issues because they think that's the way to go to have a chance to take become ac house. it's still a long shot but we also need to keep our eyes open here. does anyone really think this is the only tape of donald trump that's out there? >> no. >> does anyone really think there are women out there who are thinking he says these are words and not deeds? i have proof otherwise? so paul ryan and mike pence for that matter seem to be keeping their options open that if they get evidence that this was not just words but deeds, they still have an exit hatch here. >> that was irresponsible for you to say. >> lay it out. [ speaking simultaneously ] >> hang on. >> there were news reports yesterday that strongly suggested people affiliated with this "apprentice" show say they have tapes that were much worse than what we saw on friday, if