so we're going to really tackle that. >> with me now, the man known as the architect of obamacare, economics professor at m.i.t., jonathan gruber. welcome, sir. >> thank you. good to be here. >> nice to have you here. we have a lot of questions for you. is obamacare imploding? >> no. obamacare is not imploding. the main goal of obamacare was two-fold. one, to cover the uninsured, which we have covered 20 million. the largest expansion in american history. the other was to fix broken insurance markets where insurors could deny people insurance just because they were sick or had been sick. those have been fixed and for the vast majority of americans, costs in those markets have come down, thanks to the subsidies made available under obamacare. >> look at what's happening now. premiums are going to raise 22% for some people who are enrolled in obamacare. not only that, but some people's deductibles are so extraordinarily high, it would be silly for them to go to the