from tim kaine is fake. i don't know what's real, i don't know what's fake. the real thing we need to be remembering is that this is a hack directed at the united states to influence our election on behalf of one candidate, donald trump. that's again something that should trouble all americans. >> look, there is ample time and ample opportunity and ample networks that would be happy to have either neera or john on to say this e-mail exchange never happened. they have not done that this point. let's try this exchange between spokesperson for hillary clinton and cheryl mills, close adviser to hillary clinton over the years, top aide when she was at the state department. josh sherwin e-mails you probably have more on this but it looks like potus, the president, just said he found out hillary clinton was using her private -- personal e-mail when he saw it in the news. this came out in a cbs interview. mills then forwarded that e-mail to john podesta saying we need to clean this up. he, meaning the president, you