criticism on her e-mails. but donald trump. >> hold on. i want jeffery to state his case. same question. why is donald trump less bad? >> well, precisely because hillary clinton has all this experience and she hasn't managed being avoided by the investigation of the fbi. this is a problem with hillary clinton. beginning with the time as first lady of arkansas and managed to turn $1,000 into $100,000 in cattle futures. you go on there you time in the white house as first lady. you get to be secretary of state. whether it is benghazi or e-mails, et cetera, the same thing occurs over and over. it is bad judgment. this bad judgment landed her in the middle of the fbi investigation. that's a problem. >> pushback for each. jeffery, imagine what would happen for donald trump if he had the scrutiny of being in public service.