state department policy. >> is donald trump against arming the kurds then, do you know? >> no, no, my heavens, he knows they should be our surrogate boots on the ground. i've been trying to champion for three years. when i went to camp tiger, the peshmerga camp on isis front lines, they told me the simplest things. they don't have night goggles and the bad guys throw glen nameds in the buchkers at night and they can't see it coming. they can't debug the booby traps that isis sets up. i heard yesterday from my contacts there that the coalition is doing much better and they're providing much better arms. but they still have so many things we could provide them. i asked ed royce who's in a position to provide a field hospital. they don't have a field hospital. they have to take their people way into erbil or whatever. i think our treatment of the kurds has not been -- but the most important thing, carol, is the point that hillary clinton says she's for arming the kurds. i talked to van jones, geraldo