board and i don't think that spouses get top clearance. i might be wrong. >> i don't think hillary clinton had top-secret clearance during the first couple of years of bill clinton's administration, and i looked it up only going back to sort of the first couple years so i'm not sure in future years and i'm not sure about michelle obama, particularly since you co-habit with somebody, they may decide to give you clearance in case documents, you know, are in the private, you know, private confines of your home and your living quarters. so i think we have to investigate that, but it's kind of unheard of for your children, particularly ones who are -- >> yeah. >> -- prohibited from serving because of nepotism rules. >> david, you know, we heard from president obama today saying that he believes the president-elect is more pragmatic than ideological, worried his temperament might be in some instances but generally the president seems to be steering away from criticizing the president-elect.