i saw something bill o'reilly said, i guess he is promoting a book saying, you could have gone to hr. it seemed like roger ailes controlled hr. and that's the situation many women face. it is not so easy to say, i'll just to go a superior and tell them. >> thank you for recognizing that. that's exactly right. and i lay it out in the book because i think this is a real problem of many companies and i want people to be on notice. i'm hoping ceos will hear this message and say maybe this problem in my own company and i have to provide a safe off ramp for women who are not feeling safe to report it. you have to have somebody outside of the company who doesn't depend on the ceo to his or her paycheck, the women and it can happen to men, too, to report. at fox news it is very true that roger ailes was very much a king of sorts. and this is all laid out in the book. he founded the koirnlg