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according to u.s. intelligence, the russians were involved in trying to influence this election, both through disinformation and also through those hacks, and giving information allegedly to wikileaks. so that's their posture. the trump campaign posture is, we won. so whatever you think of us, we won. and we beat back everybody. the media was its own pro-hillary clinton super pac. so -- and there really was no acknowledgement of any mistakes on either side. even though plenty of us in the audience had long lists of things that all of them could have done differently. >> yet the clinton people think the media was too favorable toward donald trump and too critical of hillary clinton, too much focus on the e-mails. >> absolutely. that's one of their talking points is, they feel like in the last couple weeks of the election, last three weeks of the election, especially after the comey letter, that the media was just picking her apart, story after story. and in fact, they talked about how one of the things that they

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