attempts -- one other point, quickly, the reason he settled on the media over the mexicans and the muslims is the media poses a real threat to him. the media are the people who investigate his charitable giving. they're the ones who look at what we can learn about his tax returns. they're the people who cover the fraud trial of trump university. so it's very much in his interest to discredit the messenger for those messages. >> frank, is that what you tell your journalism students, this is the prime time to become a journalist because there's a lot to investigate? >> yeah. i tell them it's an important time to become a journalist, even though journalism is under siege, the media is so fractured and disaggregated. that's going to tell it. we're going to need people who are truth tellers, story tellers, go out on all plat 230r78s and convey real information, not fake information, not distorted information. i think the point john was