because he never thought it could happen. does that give you hope? >> no. it's a different situation. it's -- comparing apples to oranges. >> reporter: for starters, rexnord wasn't a campaign issue. it's not a household name like carrier. and it doesn't have a parent company that does billions of dollars in defense contracts. >> we don't have a parent company that has 10% of their revenue and federal contracts. >> reporter: do you think that matters? >> oh, yeah, it matters. yeah. >> reporter: you think it mattered in this case? >> oh, yeah, 100%. >> martin savidge, thank you very much for that reporting. let's talk more about this with john feltner, vice president of rexnord's union, and also a machinist in indianapolis. thank you for joining me. >> thank you, poppy. >> you are putting two kids through college right now. and marty's piece just talked about the good-paying jobs.