have hundreds of thousands of people committed to working on it according to the head of rome mainian intelligence who defected in '79 to us. he said in his books and otherwise, that russia is all the time trying to undermine western democracies. focused on europe more until relatively recently. going after relatively weaker parties and so forth and expanded to here. it's not new. russia, even when they smile, they have still maintained the disinformation program. and they're right now probably finding some way to try to get into the system. it was not hacking up until relatively recently. now it's hack. they've used different technologies over the years and decades. this is not new that they're