people are telling me is, no, he can't sell these properties. he doesn't even want to sell these properties. they have been in his family for a long time. >> he doesn't want to, but he can. but he doesn't want to. >> it would be very difficult for a couple reasons. one, if you suddenly put all these properties on the market. iconic real estate all over the world. hotels, apartment buildings, office buildings, et cetera, golf courses. you'll sell them at a fire sale and go for so little they're under time pressure to sell. >> which is not fair. >> or they're going to go at high prices because foreign government or sovereign wealth funds will say, oh, this is a way to curry favor with the trump administration and i'll pay a high price. i talked to someone high up in the trump administration, we can't win if we had to liquidate these properties. >> a lot of the businesses aren't bricks and mortar, they're licensing deals where his name is on something. that is something that doesn't have a whole lot of value if he's not attached to it. >> if they're at an impasse,