need to hear most especially after the last 18 months that we've seen here in this country? >> i think there's just a tremendous amount of anxiety, sometimes fear. worry about the future. i think the message of christmas, it's all about jesus. he is the one, luke says, he is the baby wrapped in swadling clothes and the message at christmas is what child is this? what do you say about god who, you know a god who loves us so much that he enters our own lives, our flesh and blood, takes it upon himself and says, i've come this close to you, so that all you have to do now is the habits, hurts and hang-ups and i'm here to love you out of those and into abundant life. >> reverend, how hard is it, for people who have no hope. who are feeling that anxiety