accept the intelligence community's assessment, why will he accept one by the outgoing democratic president? >> we haven't gotten good information yet, if you look at the report that came out last week that was supposed to settle the issue how much russia was involved in meddling, it was very vague, it was very nonspecific. it was just using information that was already available like about how different commercial programs had identified threats that they thought were russian affiliated. and this report just lumped them all and said they were all russian intelligence services without actually providing the substantiation they were russian intelligence agencies. if you're going to have people believe russia hacked the vote totals, which isn't true, we should be patient. wait and see some good information. otherwise is it just looks like this is political game playing. >> to be clear, what is not in question is who did the hacking. it was russia. did it influence the election, et cetera. but from the campaign, you're getting a lot of muddying of the waters about who was behind it.