people suddenly manipulating our networks? so we can't believe the data we're looking at? that would be a real fundamental game-changer n it's only a question of the when, not the if. this is going to happen. what happens when the nonstate actor decides that cyber offers an asymmetric advantage to them because their sense of risk and their willingness to destroy the status quo is significantly different and greater than your typical nation state. those are the long-term things. so as we've talked about more broadly today, we've got to get better on the defensive side because part of deterrence is making it harder to succeed. a defensive strategy alone isn't going to work. it's a resource intensive approach and puts us on the wrong end of the cost equation. that's a losing strategy for us but it's a component of a strategy. we've got to ask ourselves, how do we change this broader dynamic. how do we convince nations and other actors out there that