issue necessarily. but remember the man tlideliver the information today, clapper, outright lied to the senate in 2013, saying there was no surveillance or intelligence gathering on american citizens by national security means and snowden opened up the secrets and had to walk that back. >> scenario -- >> part of the problem -- >> donald trump was in russia, did business there and got to gnome and therefore thinks he can do business with them on good level of mutual trust and he's playing that card. might be legitimate but need answers to the underlying questions. pardon for interrupting. >> and it's different in 2013 than now, i understand what you're saying but not exact parity. >> it is not parity but there