crime presumably if there would be evidence of that, there would be more of an indication. but we really don't know because again you get into the question of what are the sensitive sources and methods, what can actually beity vul divulged to the public. only thing we know is that the conclusions are the same. >> and if russia has done this in one election process in the u.s., it could presumably deploy the same kind of tactics for german presidential elections coming up next year, france, as well. >> i don't see any reason why they wouldn't. they have seen -- their objective may have been initially to just discord and disunity in the united states. i'm sure that they take trump being elected as a boon to their interests. trump is certainly more friendly to russian interests than was hillary clinton. so i think that regardless of what their actual objective was, i think that they see this as a successful playbook and they don't see any particular reason not to do it injacob, many than