think that is where there's a backlash towards that type of attitude. >> i think the level of hypocrisy on then point is almost laughable in that everybody on this here tonight, we spend our lives trying to influence public opinion. so for some reason, whether he would people do it, when well-known celebrities and artists do it, some of the most recognized in the world do it, those people are terrible because they're telling us what to do. we're all telling people what to do and think. >> how they do it. >> you don't get this whole, remember the idea of american exceptionalism? what happened to that? i thought conservatives were the folks who wanted american exceptionalism the most out of anyone hon fought for american exceptionalism. anytime someone fights to be in the best, you want to be in the arts, you go to new york or hollywood. you want to be in politics, you go to washington. what is wrong with that?