it wasn't something that he just owned. we're talking about a small amount of shares. the reporting on it is somewhere between sds 1,000 and $15,000 worth. he has an estate value of $13 million. which make him one of the cheap seats in the trump cabinet. the office of government ethics has taken a look at him and says they are only worried about conflicts going forward, so they have no opinion on this. why should you? >> the standards are a little looser in congress than they are in the executive branch. there's no question that members of congress have some leeway around this. it was troubling enough in the congress going back to 2012 that they passed the stock act to make sure that members of congress weren't using inside knowledge to make money off of any business they oversaw or had a role in regulating, and that's a clear issue here in the price example. i don't think the am of money matters. probably the chain of command on the trades does matter rm.