clarify and then he says something else. i don't know if you know what he means and is this what it's going to be like for the next four years? >> if i knew what he meant, can you imagine what i would be in this world -- >> i mean, there have been a couple of explanations, am i right? >> this is the best way to take a step back and look at the whole situation. my money is on mike pence, and the reason being is he has the relationships in the building behind us, he understands how legislation works. mike pence if you go back to the presidential debate where he was continuously thrown up against the ropes by tim kaine having to defend donald trump, for the crazy things donald trump said whether it was about russia or how he viewed women, and mike pence did a really good job of deflecting, deflecting, i think in many ways he will be the most powerful vice president of our