unemployment rate? >> what's the average? >> what's the overall -- >> are you talking about whether or not we include the full -- i mean the bureau of labor statistics puts it at -- no, it's not a question of what i accept. there are ways to put out full employment. but i'm saying that there's a reason we put out several versions of that. one is that the illustrative nature of how you count the unemployed, whether or not they are long-term unemployed or still seeking a job. it's not just a number to him. he's not focused on statistics as much as he is on whether or not the american people are doing better as a whole. >> so christine, the unemployment rate is 4.7%? okay. so remember during the election, donald trump would say things like -- >> 45%. >> no, we have it. i want our viewers to hear it for themselves. >> i read every time it comes out, i hear, 5.3% unemployment. that is the biggest joke there