physical barrier but you also need the enforcement. there's nine sectors of the border patrol along the southwest border an very few were actually enforcing what was called streamline. an actual consequence if you breached that barrier, that wall, you were deported and there were consequences behind it. most of the border there was disparate enforcement. full catch and release was happening and so when there's no consequence and no enforcement, of course, my deputies have arrested people 16, 22 times. they keep returning. and hay whooi wouldn't they? because there's no consequence or punishment. that's what's really been the issue here, far more than a wall, far more than any other issue that people think is going to solve it. it's going to be enforcement of u.s. laws. >> all right, sheriff. thank you very much. i appreciate your time. >> thank you, erin. anytime. next, my next guest is the founder of patron, the tequila.