steve bannon was a military officer. he's been successful in everything he's done, why is it such a bad thing to put him on national security? >> because he's a political operative, he looks at everything from the political lens. it is his job to get donald trump reelected. >> nobody on the nsc can be in politics? >> that's why they're not. >> usually they're not. >> that's why political operatives in the white house have not been. >> he was considered for vice president. >> that's different from getting the post. let's move to russia. the small elephant in the room, i guess we could call it. the president's comments on putin over the weekend, i call this the latest installment of things donald trump says. but in a very serious way, is it actions or words that matter more? things he says, you can react to. but the obama era sanctions against russia, they're still in place. >> i think that words absolutely matter. we're talking about international diplomacy here. that is largely a game of words.