this was never the big empty. as dan flores writes, "the idea of a wilderness is itself a cultural construct." as early as 1539, when marcos de niza, a franciscan friar, reported sighting from a distance what he called the seven cities of cibola, these were interpreted as tantalizing outposts of wealth, possible cities of gold. coronado, the famous spanish conquistador, quickly dispatched an expedition, and there were indeed, cities. hello. >> man: hi. this is zia. >> anthony: awesome. well, thank you for having us. >> anthony: the home of community leader ivan pino in zia pueblo. i'm here to join him and his