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>> ivan: its whiskers and a little bit of his tail and plant it back in here. >> anthony: to ensure a generation of this once vital source of food, tradition and ritual requires returning a part of the animal back to the nest. >> ivan: i will never go hungry. [ sings ] >> anthony: going for packrats is really an homage and an acknowledgment of an important earlier time when that was all there was. >> man: yeah. >> anthony: 25-year great drought. as a city boy, i am greatly relieved these little critters are for the medicine man and that we won't actually be eating any of them. instead, linda, ivan's wife, is preparing a pretty traditional menu. >> ivan: nothing is wasted whenever big game is brought home, you know, we dry up and dehydrate the bone. >> anthony: deer bone stew, red chili stew cooked with dried elk and potatoes, pinto beans with chicos -- that's roasted dried
coronado, the famous spanish conquistador, quickly dispatched an expedition, and there were indeed, cities. hello. >> man: hi. this is zia. >> anthony: awesome. well, thank you for having us. >> anthony: the home of community leader ivan pino in zia pueblo. i'm here to join him and his nephew robert and family in a traditional hunt. >> ivan: so we'll be carrying our shotguns. we'll be carrying our rabbit stick. we don't do this anymore, you know, it's -- >> man: it's harder. >> ivan: yeah, harder. so it's always good to get a prayer going so that the animals can be willing to take their life, you know. [ speaking spanish ] ♪ >> anthony: the pueblo, who
lived here continuously since around 1250 a.d. had long before the spanish or anyone else arrived, a highly organized society. they built multilevel adobe apartment blocks. they farmed the land, irrigated crops using intricate water diversion systems. all this in what sure as hell looked like a harsh and unforgiving land. ♪ >> ivan: this is good, uh, weather, though for hunting, 'cause there's a nice breeze, overcast. >> anthony: yeah, well, the breeze is beautiful. >> ivan: not too hot. >> anthony: pueblo long ago learned to adapt to hard times, dry seasons, war, incursion. there were years where there was nothing, and they had to deal. >> ivan: oh. wow, we found a packrat. our first packrat. >> anthony: in preparation for the summer solstice ceremony, game like rabbits and packrats are collected for the medicine
as dan flores writes, "the idea of a wilderness is itself a cultural construct." as early as 1539, when marcos de niza, a franciscan friar, reported sighting from a distance what he called the seven cities of cibola, these were interpreted as tantalizing outposts of wealth, possible cities of gold. coronado, the famous spanish conquistador, quickly dispatched an expedition, and there were indeed, cities. hello. >> man: hi. this is zia. >> anthony: awesome. well, thank you for having us. >> anthony: the home of community leader ivan pino in zia pueblo. i'm here to join him and his nephew robert and family in a traditional hunt. >> ivan: so we'll be carrying our shotguns. we'll be carrying our rabbit stick. we don't do this anymore, you know, it's -- >> man: it's harder. >> ivan: yeah, harder.
so it's always good to get a prayer going so that the animals can be willing to take their life, you know. [ speaking spanish ] ♪ >> anthony: the pueblo, who lived here continuously since around 1250 a.d. had long before the spanish or anyone else arrived, a highly organized society. they built multilevel adobe apartment blocks. they farmed the land, irrigated crops using intricate water diversion systems. all this in what sure as hell looked like a harsh and unforgiving land. ♪ >> ivan: this is good, uh, weather, though for hunting, 'cause there's a nice breeze, overcast. >> anthony: yeah, well, the breeze is beautiful. >> ivan: not too hot. >> anthony: pueblo long ago
any of them. instead, linda, ivan's wife, is preparing a pretty traditional menu. >> ivan: nothing is wasted whenever big game is brought home, you know, we dry up and dehydrate the bone. >> anthony: deer bone stew, red chili stew cooked with dried elk and potatoes, pinto beans with chicos -- that's roasted dried corn-- and tortillas. and, of course, more chilies. >> ivan: we call these -- this dish -- push-around chili because you gather and push it around. >> man: you push it around until you see the one you want. >> ivan: yeah. >> anthony: the chilies in this state are magical. >> man: they're zia chilies, not hash chilies. >> anthony: ah. >> man: and the seeds have been passed down from generation to generation and stay within the families. >> anthony: what percentage of young people leave and don't come back? >> ivan: not too many people will leave. >> anthony: really? >> ivan: no. >> man: there are people who leave, but eventually, there's this yearning inside you that you want to go home, you want to learn your culture, uh, you want to, you know, be a part of everything. >> anthony: it would be an understatement to say that those
nephew robert and family in a traditional hunt. >> ivan: so we'll be carrying our shotguns. we'll be carrying our rabbit stick. we don't do this anymore, you know, it's -- >> man: it's harder. >> ivan: yeah, harder. so it's always good to get a prayer going so that the animals can be willing to take their life, you know. [ speaking spanish ] ♪ >> anthony: the pueblo, who lived here continuously since around 1250 a.d. had long before the spanish or anyone else arrived, a highly organized society. they built multilevel adobe apartment blocks. they farmed the land, irrigated crops using intricate water diversion systems. all this in what sure as hell unforgiving land. ♪ >> ivan: this is good, uh,
this was never the big empty. as dan flores writes, "the idea of a wilderness is itself a cultural construct." as early as 1539, when marcos de niza, a franciscan friar, reported sighting from a distance what he called the seven cities of cibola, these were interpreted as tantalizing outposts of wealth, possible cities of gold. coronado, the famous spanish conquistador, quickly dispatched an expedition, and there were indeed, cities. hello. >> man: hi. this is zia. >> anthony: awesome. well, thank you for having us. >> anthony: the home of community leader ivan pino in zia pueblo. i'm here to join him and his
>> man: yeah. >> anthony: 25-year great drought. as a city boy, i am greatly relieved these little critters are for the medicine man and that we won't actually be eating any of them. instead, linda, ivan's wife, is preparing a pretty traditional menu. >> ivan: nothing is wasted whenever big game is brought home, you know, we dry up and dehydrate the bone. >> anthony: deer bone stew, red chili stew cooked with dried elk and potatoes, pinto beans with chicos -- that's roasted dried corn-- and tortillas. and, of course, more chilies. >> ivan: we call these -- this dish -- push-around chili because you gather and push it around. >> man: you push it around until you see the one you want. >> ivan: yeah. >> anthony: the chilies in this state are magical. >> man: they're zia chilies, not hash chilies. >> anthony: ah. >> man: and the seeds have been passed down from generation to generation and stay within the families. >> anthony: what percentage of young people leave and don't come back? >> ivan: not too many people
>> to ensure a generation of this once vital source of food, tradition and ritual requires returning a part of the animal back to the nest. >> i will never go hungry. >> going for pack rats is really an homage, an acknowledgement of an important earlier time when that was all there was. the 25-year great drought. >> as a city boy, i am greatly relieved these little critters are for the medicine man and we won't actually be eating any of them. instead linda, ivan's wife, is preparing a pretty traditional menu. >> nothing is wasted when our big game is brought home. we dry up and dehydrate the bone. >> deer bone stew, red chili stew cooked with dried elk and potatoes, pinto beans with chicos, that's roasted dried corn, and tortillas.