vague. he didn't give as strong a message as european officials were hoping for. on the other side it's trump's chief strategist conveying a different message behind the scenes. really now european officials are extremely concerned because they have brexit to deal with, a number of national elections to deal with, and they have populism on the right. this nationalistic message and this idea that the u.s. might want to actually speak to the 27 member states of the u.n. individually is -- >> bilateral deals rather than anything else. >> which is what we're also hearing from the uk. they're saying if we can't get a good deal once we're out, we'd rather speak to 27 member state. >> what is the thinking here? is it that president trump doesn't understand, doesn't believe in a pan european union, or he doesn't want to? >> i think it's both. european officials in brussels are concerned that this