side, you would go to these message meeting and people say, you have to get 218, got to get 218. that's what you need to pass it. he'll get his 218. >> do you think that will actually sway president trump a away from what some people are seeing as the steve bannon effect? >> do i think it will happen? no, that's why i said i hope he surprises me. you know, there are things -- immigration, two republican senators put in a bill that would cut legal immigration in half this month. trump has said, well, i think immigration is fine as long as it's legal. well, they're going to cut it from a million to 500,000. why would they do that? >> let me ask you about what we're hearing from some democrats. for instance, congresswoman maxine waters not going to the address. elliott engel who has long sought out one of those coveted seats on the aisle getting a little fester with the president after years of not doing that's correct says i'm not doing that. what do you think about that? >> well, there is no question